Banging on about Bang the Table

Comic book - door knocking

A couple of times recently, I’ve heard Australians complain about the Australian online engagement firm, Bang the Table (BTT) (see   I’ve done their training and greatly admire their work, which I see as directly complementary to my more “hands-on” approaches.


I decided it was time to sort things out in my own mind, so I spoke with Crispin Butteris, one of the Directors, last week.


This blog reflects my own thoughts and some ideas that came out of our conversation.

In one of my recent conversations, a resident complained about the “thin” website that Bang the Table had prepared for a local council in Western Australia. I explained that BTT (like my own firm) has many options to offer.

When a client chooses the weakest option in the catalogue, there is little we can do.

We have the same problem all the time: the good parts get defunded before we even begin a community engagement process.


In another conversation – at a public rally, actually – a disgruntled resident complained about the very small sample in a survey of attitudes toward a medical facility in Sydney. Again, the “reach” of the survey would have been a matter for the client, again, a local municipality.


That got me thinking about my own experiences with community engagement. The appalling things people have said to me in public forums:


  • We know you’re a spy from HomesWest [the state public housing authority]”. We have that on good authority/


  • Or: You’re just another hired gun, paid to do what the council wants you to do. You have no integrity.


  • Or: We’ve heard from a reputable source   that you’re being paid by Developer X. We have spies in high places.


And so forth.


Both Crispin and I have had to grow thick skins to take the abuse that flows in these situations.


Because (and here’s the rub), we have to keep our gloves on, while members of the “public” can take theirs off. It can be very challenging and frightening (especially for young professionals).


The more I think about it, the more I felt that we needed a good conversation – maybe at an IAP2 conference or a PIA conference – about these matters.


Consider the following:


It is not without precedent for one individual or a small group of highly activated community members to attack us. It seems to happen when they feel threatened by the transparency created by an open online process. Or, for that matter, by any authentic process, online or embodied. In those sorts of situations, people who aim primarily to disrupt lose their ability to frame and control the discourse around an issue.


Crispin and   agreed that what we do can be very disruptive to “activist practice.” Both of us have been roundly condemned by a small group of residents when their position was exposed as being unrepresentative of broader community interests. We know that our other colleagues in their field have similar experiences. Sometimes we have these encounters with the same people over the same planning matters over many years.


Crispin also explained that by taking the engagement process online (and adequately publicising opportunities to get involved), the frame of reference for the discussions is expanded beyond those with an immediate interest. It puts their interests and their scale into a much broader context.


At this stage, there are a number of different possible outcomes:


(1)     The activists are proven correct. The rest of the community rallies behind them, both in terms of numbers (lots of people express their interest) and sentiment; or

(2)     the activists are proven wrong. The rest of community rises up to oppose them, a great tidal wave of alternate opinion washes them away; or

(3)     the activists are proven to be lone voices in the wilderness. Nobody else cares about the issue. We agreed that this is as bad an outcome for the activists as being proven wrong. Community ambivalence kills the issue.


Of course, the client (the consulting organisation) needs to do a good enough job of publicising the engagement process. If not, all bets are off!


I am an activist myself and involved in a number of campaigns in New South Wales – from opposition to coal seam gas mining to keeping hospitals in Sydney’s northern beaches, to trying to reform the reform of the NSW planning system. (OMG, that’s a job and a half!)


Wise ones among us admire the work on Deep Democracy: accepting the will of the majority along with the wisdom of the minority.

Coming to Public Judgment

For my part, I’m leaning strongly in the direction of “Coming to Public Judgment”.

I’m currently reading Daniel Yankelovich’s classic text on that subject (see


That’s different from “public opinion”.

Daniel Yankelovich Photo: Matthew Septimus

Daniel Yankelovich                                                           Photo: Matthew Septimus

Yankelovich’s makes a salient point early in the book: an informed citizenry is not all that we need. We need people genuinely to understand what’s being discussed. An engaged citizenry is a good start.


So, I say, stop banging on about Bang the Table.


And bang on instead about the content of what’s being discussed.


Let’s get educated.

Let’s build and strengthen our communities’ capacities to understand – really understand – what’s happening in our communities.


And let’s stop shooting the messengers.



A Bow of Gratitude to Bang the Table

March 5, 2010 – 5:36 pm


Bang the table




You may have been reading about the Australian community engagement firm, Bang the Table, recently caught up in one of those sorts of political issues that characterise community high-profile engagement – at least in some Australian states.


I have been concerned that the “baby might be thrown out with the bathwater” in this case and that people considering community engagement processes for their organisation might turn away from on-line presences and the many potential benefits of social networking.


Last December, I attended a one-day training workshop about “Planning to Engage Your Community Online” conducted by the Australian firm, Bang the Table.





What a treat that was for me!


One of the weaknesses of my work has been a reluctance to engage with electronic democracy and online consultation with the sort of furious enthusiasm that characterised the work of my firm, Sarkissian Associates Planners, and many talented colleagues I have worked with over the years.


Bang the Table specializes in providing web-based community engagement platforms for local, state and national governments mostly in Australia, but also in New Zealand and Canada.


What I learned


What I learned was that the approaches used by Bang the Table can make my own engagement processes livelier and friendlier. They can make them more approachable to many, including younger generations without in any way trivializing the content. I learned the benefits and weaknesses of a whole range of options, including blogs, forums, social networking (Facebook), wikis, and microblogs (Twitter) and a wide range of suggestions for incorporating images and video into the engagement discussions.


My engagement universe expanded. Exploded.


And, after three co-authored books in two years with a total of thirteen authors, I discovered, somewhat sadly, the benefits of document-sharing systems. As authors, we managed quite well communicating from Sweden, Canada, Hong Kong, Melbourne, Honolulu and France, not to mention Brisbane and me here in the bush, but it could have been much easier, my new friends explained to me. Much easier.


Ah well, there are new books to write and new engagement processes to undertake”¦


Brilliance, care and sensitivity


So when I saw a cartoon recently in the Sydney Morning Herald vilifying Bang the Table, I remembered the brilliance, care and sensitivity their Directors showed in their well-designed and well-managed training session.


As I listened to the Directors, Matt Crozier and Crispin Butteriss, I realised that my attempts to bring creativity into community engagement were being parallelled by these innovative practitioners who live in a sort of parallel universe.


Our approaches are complementary, not competitive. Our unique insights, innovations and techniques can work together to enhance the work of the other.


Welcome to my kitchen table


They’d be welcome at my kitchen table any time.


And I am convinced that together we can help to achieve kitchen table sustainability in our different – and complementary – ways.